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    heyy people of maths help forum i'm facing troubles of my own solving this question

    a manufacture makes hi-fi systems and sells it to the wholesaler for 15% + cost of making , the wholesaler then sells it to the retailer at price + 20%, then the retailer sells to ME at $1470 including 30% of it is profit for the retailer.

    find the cost of making the hi-fi system whopss forgot to add that sorry.
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    Quote Originally Posted by erarkku View Post
    heyy people of maths help forum i'm facing troubles of my own solving this question

    a manufacture makes hi-fi systems and sells it to the wholesaler for 15% + cost of making , the wholesaler then sells it to the retailer at price + 20%, then the retailer sells to ME at $1470 including 30% of it is profit for the retailer.

    find the cost of making the hi-fi system whopss forgot to add that sorry.
    The "trick" to these questions is make them into equations.

    Let x be the cost of making the system. So,

    the wholesaler bought it for y=x + (15 % \text{of } x) = x + 0.15x=1.15x,

    the retailer bought it for z=1.20y,

    and you bought it for 1470=1.30z.

    Now, substitute everything into the last equation. 1470=1.30z=1.30*(1.20y)= \ldots, and then you will have an equation that is only in terms of x, which is what you wish to find. So, just solve for x.
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    Solving this problem like Swlabr suggested seems professional way. Though I prefer step by step explanations and answers, that way I can examine and learn more.
    Math should be logical (that is why I registered here -- to learn). I have finished high school in USA terms and have idea how to get answer.

    I am going to subtract percentages until I get manufacturer production cost, it should be possible.

    30% from 1470 is 1470 * 0.3 = 441, Retailer got it for 1470 - 441 = 1029
    20% from 1029 is 1029 * 0.2 = 205.8,Wholesaler got it for 1029 - 205.8 = 823.2
    15% from 823.2 is 823.2 * 0.15 = 123.48, Manufacturer production cost was 823.2 - 123.48 = 699.72 ($)

    Hi-fi system costs 699.72 $.

    I am learning by doing.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Sooda View Post
    Solving this problem like Swlabr suggested seems professional way. Though I prefer step by step explanations and answers, that way I can examine and learn more.
    Math should be logical (that is why I registered here -- to learn). I have finished high school in USA terms and have idea how to get answer.

    I am going to subtract percentages until I get manufacturer production cost, it should be possible.

    30% from 1470 is 1470 * 0.3 = 441, Retailer got it for 1470 - 441 = 1029
    20% from 1029 is 1029 * 0.2 = 205.8,Wholesaler got it for 1029 - 205.8 = 823.2
    15% from 823.2 is 823.2 * 0.15 = 123.48, Manufacturer production cost was 823.2 - 123.48 = 699.72 ($)

    Hi-fi system costs 699.72 $.

    I am learning by doing.
    Hi, I appologise for my delay in replying.

    However, I would like to point out that your answer is actually incorrect. You said:
    Quote Originally Posted by Sooda View Post
    30% from 1470 is 1470 * 0.3 = 441, Retailer got it for 1470 - 441 = 1029
    and so on. What you are doing here is finding 30% of the final cost, not of the initial cost. These are different. To put it in equations:

    1470 * 0.3 = 441 \neq 1029*0.3, where 1029*0.3 would be the profit from that stage if they had bought it for 1029.

    I hope that makes sense.

    Basically, your problem is that you are finding the percentages of the final price not of the price that the seller, maker, etc bought it for, and these percentages are different.

    The final answer is, I believe, 819.40 by rounding.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Stroodle View Post
    You need to make your spam a bit shorter. No-one's gonna read that chunk of text...
    I don't think your meant to read it, just click the links. His other posts are the same (see the Geometry forum), just with different issues being discussed.

    Also, I like your avatar...!
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    Interesting to know, maybe one day I can solve problems correctly.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Sooda View Post
    Interesting to know, maybe one day I can solve problems correctly.
    It just takes practice, that's all.
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