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June 30th 2009, 06:57 AM
Raoh

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Get everything from the graph

$\mathfrak{hello}$ (Hi)
i'm trying to get all the possible informations about a function from its graph and i mean by informations;limits,asymptotes..
i hope someone would help me extract those informations from this example :
Let : $f : \mathbb{R}\to \mathbb{R}\setminus \left \{ -1 \right \}$
and here's its graph :
June 30th 2009, 07:50 AM
Soroban

Hello, Raoh!

Quote:

I'm trying to get all the possible informations about a function from its graph
and i mean by informations: limits, asymptotes . . .

It appears to have a vertical asymptote: $x = -1$
. . and a horizontal asymptote: $y = 1$

It also seems to be a hyperbola.

The hyperbola: . $y \:=\:\frac{a}{x}$ .has center (0,0) and appears in Quadrants 1 and 3.
The hyperbola: . $y \:=\:-\frac{a}{x}$ .has center (0,0) and appears in Quadrants 2 and 4.

Our hyperbola has center (-1, 1) and seems to contain: (3,0), (1,-1), (0,-3).

I would conclude that the function is: . $y - 1 \:=\:\frac{-4}{x+1} \quad\Rightarrow\quad\boxed{ y \;=\;\frac{x-3}{x+1}}$
June 30th 2009, 08:00 AM
dhiab

Quote:

Originally Posted by Raoh

$\mathfrak{hello}$ (Hi)
i'm trying to get all the possible informations about a function from its graph and i mean by informations;limits,asymptotes..
i hope someone would help me extract those informations from this example :
Let : $f : \mathbb{R}\to \mathbb{R}\setminus \left \{ -1,3 \right \}$
and here's its graph :

Hello : those informations from this example is:
f(0)=-3
f(3)=0
limf:infini (x--> -1)
limf =1 (x---->infini)(Rofl)
June 30th 2009, 09:05 AM
Raoh

thanks guys,but i still don't understand (Headbang)
i'm gonna try to illustrate what i wanted to understand from that graph
$\lim_{x\to +\infty }f(x) = ?$
$\lim_{x\to -\infty }f(x) = ?$
and i don't need just values,i wanna know how (Happy)
thanks a lot.
June 30th 2009, 11:16 AM
VonNemo19

Quote:

Originally Posted by Raoh

thanks guys,but i still don't understand (Headbang)
i'm gonna try to illustrate what i wanted to understand from that graph
$\lim_{x\to +\infty }f(x) = ?$
$\lim_{x\to -\infty }f(x) = ?$
and i don't need just values,i wanna know how (Happy)
thanks a lot.

If $\lim_{x\to\infty}f(x)=L$ then the line $y=L$ is a horizontal asymptote of the graph of $f$ .

In your case, it appears from the graph that you have provided, that a good approximation for $L$ is $\frac{1}{2}$
June 30th 2009, 11:17 AM
dhiab

Quote:

Originally Posted by Raoh

thanks guys,but i still don't understand (Headbang)
i'm gonna try to illustrate what i wanted to understand from that graph
$\lim_{x\to +\infty }f(x) = ?$
$\lim_{x\to -\infty }f(x) = ?$
and i don't need just values,i wanna know how (Happy)
thanks a lot.

Hello : I'have anathor solution
That function is homographic :http://www.mathramz.com/xyz/latexren...08d6d2d993.png
1)
http://www.mathramz.com/xyz/latexren...e34e65d68c.png
2)
http://www.mathramz.com/xyz/latexren...d91de2c6b5.png
3 )
x=-1 is asymtot : http://www.mathramz.com/xyz/latexren...298718368f.png
4 ) y=1 is asymtot :
http://www.mathramz.com/xyz/latexren...f888488fce.png
I'have this system : http://www.mathramz.com/xyz/latexren...9e55255f07.png
Subst in f(x) :
http://www.mathramz.com/xyz/latexren...828f1d90eb.png
conclusion : http://www.mathramz.com/xyz/latexren...6324a15872.png
June 30th 2009, 12:52 PM
Raoh

thanks again for everyone,but i should say that the last post got me a little twisted(Worried),because i can't tell from the graph that the function should be written like this $f(x) = \frac{ax+b}{cx+d}$ ,in contrary i like how "Soroban" concluded that the function is indeed $f(x) = \frac{x-3}{x+1}$ ,but i don't understand his steps (Worried), any help ?
June 30th 2009, 01:00 PM
VonNemo19

Quote:

Originally Posted by Raoh

thanks again for everyone,but i should say that the last post got me a little twisted(Worried),because i can't tell from the graph that the function should be written like this $f(x) = \frac{ax+b}{cx+d}$ ,in contrary i like how "Soroban" concluded that the function is indeed $f(x) = \frac{x-3}{x+1}$ ,but i don't understand his steps (Worried), any help ?

Where the lines $y=1$ and $x=-1$ intersect is the center of the hyperbola.
$x+1$ must appear irreducibly in the denominator because the function is undefined at $x=-1$ .

He also made use of the intercepts.
June 30th 2009, 01:50 PM
Raoh

alright,the domain can tell what should be written in the denominator(i'm not sure if always(Thinking)),what about the numerator ?
thanks.
sorry to bother you guys.(Worried)