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    Factorization

    I actually don't know how to factor this expression.

    x^2-y^2+2yz-2zx-4x+2y+2z+3
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    Quote Originally Posted by chengbin View Post
    I actually don't know how to factor this expression.

    x^2-y^2+2yz-2zx-4x+2y+2z+3
    Hint: add z^2 - z^2 (which is zero, so you're not changing anything) and remember that (x - z)^2 = x^2 - 2xz + z^2 and similarly (y - z)^2 = y^2 - 2yz + z^2
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    Hello, chengbin!

    This is the Factoring Problem From Hell
    . . coming soon to a theater near you.


    Factor: . x^2-y^2+2yz-2zx\:{\color{blue}-\:4x}\:{\color{red}+\:2y}+2z+3

    Replace {\color{blue}-4x} with {\color{blue}-x - 3x}

    Replace {\color{red}2y} with {\color{red}-y + 3y}

    We have: . x^2 - y^2 + 2yz - 2zx \:{\color{blue}- x - 3x}\: {\color{red}- y + 3y} + 2z + 3


    Rearrange: . x^2 - x - y^2 - y - 2zx + 2yz + 2z - 3x + 3y + 3


    Subtract and add {\color{red}xy}:

    . . x^2 \:{\color{red}- \:xy} - x \:{\color{red}+\: xy} - y^2 - y - 2zx + 2yz + 2z - 3x + 3y + 3


    Factor: . x(x-y-1) + y(x-y-1) - 2z(x-y-1) - 3(x-y-1)


    Factor: . (x - y - 1)(x + y - 2z - 3) . . . . ta-DAA!

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    What if you're not allowed to add zero terms?
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    Quote Originally Posted by chengbin View Post
    What if you're not allowed to add zero terms?
    why would you not be allowed to do that?
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    Quote Originally Posted by Jhevon View Post
    why would you not be allowed to do that?
    Because this wasn't taught in Kumon's factorization worksheets.

    I was stuck on this question at Kumon when a student asked me (there wasn't a solution at the center at that time)
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    Quote Originally Posted by chengbin View Post
    Because this wasn't taught in Kumon's factorization worksheets.

    I was stuck on this question at Kumon when a student asked me (there wasn't a solution at the center at that time)
    well, i don't think Kumon (whoever that is) would have a problem with this. maybe you should have said what you can do earlier. as we have no idea what is in this worksheet you speak of, we can only describe the conventional way to attack this problem. i don't see any easier way to factor this than our "adding zero" method
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    I'm going to kill that student...

    It seems like he's trying to test me! This problem was an example!!!

    I actually wasted some time digging up my old worksheets, then I found out.

    Sorry for bothering you with this problem.

    BTW, Soroban, your method of factoring is very smart.

    In case you want to know how to do it without adding zero terms, and to prove that Kumon LOVES to torture students, here is the worksheet that I spent 20 minutes finding. There is also 20 pages (double sided) of worksheets with the same level of difficulty, exploring just about every method of factoring except adding zero terms. Factorization is probably the most outrageously hard topic taught in Kumon, along with maxima and minima.

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