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    solve the inequality

    (3x^2-10x+3)(2x^2-5x+2)<0

    i got 1/3<x<1/2 or 2<x<3

    & the answer is x<1/3
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    Quote Originally Posted by adhyeta View Post
    solve the inequality

    (3x^2-10x+3)(2x^2-5x+2)<0

    i got 1/3<x<1/2 or 2<x<3

    & the answer is x<1/3
    Either 3x^2-10x+3=0 or 2x^2-5x+2=0

    3x^2-10x+3=0 has roots of 3 and 1/3 so x<3 and x<1/3. As 1/3 is less than 3 we can disregard the first solution.

    2x^2-5x+2=0 has roots of 2 and 1/2. Since neither of those are less than 1/3 they can both be disregarded.

    Therefore the solution is x<1/3 since all the others do not satisfy this one
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    Hi

    Looks good to me!
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    Quote Originally Posted by e^(i*pi) View Post
    Either 3x^2-10x+3=0 or 2x^2-5x+2=0

    3x^2-10x+3=0 has roots of 3 and 1/3 so x<3 and x<1/3. As 1/3 is less than 3 we can disregard the first solution.

    2x^2-5x+2=0 has roots of 2 and 1/2. Since neither of those are less than 1/3 they can both be disregarded.

    Therefore the solution is x<1/3 since all the others do not satisfy this one
    firstly, its not equal but < 0.

    lets consider your first argument, acc to which;

    3x^2-10x+3=0 has roots of 3 and 1/3 so x<3 and x<1/3. As 1/3 is less than 3 we can disregard the first solution.
    but we need the solution to

    3x^2-10x+3<0

    which i can rewrite as;

    3(x-1/3)(x-3)<0

    which is true only when 1/3<x<3

    & acc. to you its true for x<1/3

    same thing goes for the second.

    Lets consider that you are right with that solution,

    then any value of x<1/3 would satisfy 3(x-1/3)(x-3)<0

    take any value, it wont, however a value BETWEEN 1/3 & 3 will.
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    now, lets just go with my textbook answer and put in a value of x<1/3 for instance lets put x=-1

    the expression comes out to be positive & hence, x=-1 isnt a solution to the inequality.

    what do you ppl think?

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    Quote Originally Posted by adhyeta View Post
    solve the inequality

    (3x^2-10x+3)(2x^2-5x+2)<0
    For the product to be negative, one but not both of the factors must be negative.

    Where is 3x^2 - 10x + 3 less than zero? Assuming 3x^2 - 10x + 3 < 0, where is 2x^2 - 5x + 2 greater than zero? What is the overlap of these solutions?

    . . . . . 3x^2\, -\, 10x\, +\, 3\, <\, 0

    . . . . . (3x\, -\, 1)(x\, -\, 3)\, <\, 0

    From the equality, (3x - 1)(x - 3) = 0, we know that the above crosses the x-axis at x = 1/3 and at x = 3. From the graph of y = 3x^2 - 10x + 3, we know that the graph is below the x-axis (and thus that the inequality is negative) between these zeroes; that is, on the interval (1/3, 3).

    . . . . . 2x^2\, -\, 5x\, +\, 2\, >\, 0

    . . . . . (2x\, -\, 1)(x\, -\, 2)\, >\, 0

    From the equation, (2x - 1)(x - 2) = 0, we know the graph crosses the x-axis at x = 1/2 and at x = 2. From the graph of y = 2x^2 - 5x + 2, we know that the graph is above the x-axis (and thus that the inequality is positive) "on the ends"; that is, on the intervals (-infinity, 1/2) and (2, +infinity).

    For both inequalities to have the signs we want, we need the intersection of these two solutions: [(-infinity, 1/2) union (2, +infinity)] intersect (1/3, 3).

    What then is the solution-interval for this case?

    Now what if you start with the inequalities on the factors going in the other direction?

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    Quote Originally Posted by stapel View Post
    For the product to be negative, one but not both of the factors must be negative.

    Where is 3x^2 - 10x + 3 less than zero? Assuming 3x^2 - 10x + 3 < 0, where is 2x^2 - 5x + 2 greater than zero? What is the overlap of these solutions?

    . . . . . 3x^2\, -\, 10x\, +\, 3\, <\, 0

    . . . . . (3x\, -\, 1)(x\, -\, 3)\, <\, 0

    From the equality, (3x - 1)(x - 3) = 0, we know that the above crosses the x-axis at x = 1/3 and at x = 3. From the graph of y = 3x^2 - 10x + 3, we know that the graph is below the x-axis (and thus that the inequality is negative) between these zeroes; that is, on the interval (1/3, 3).

    . . . . . 2x^2\, -\, 5x\, +\, 2\, >\, 0

    . . . . . (2x\, -\, 1)(x\, -\, 2)\, >\, 0

    From the equation, (2x - 1)(x - 2) = 0, we know the graph crosses the x-axis at x = 1/2 and at x = 2. From the graph of y = 2x^2 - 5x + 2, we know that the graph is above the x-axis (and thus that the inequality is positive) "on the ends"; that is, on the intervals (-infinity, 1/2) and (2, +infinity).

    For both inequalities to have the signs we want, we need the intersection of these two solutions: [(-infinity, 1/2) union (2, +infinity)] intersect (1/3, 3).

    What then is the solution-interval for this case?

    Now what if you start with the inequalities on the factors going in the other direction?

    well all that we could just do with the wavy curve method which gives the answer which i got. so finally the textbook answer(x<1/3) is wrong i believe...
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    Quote Originally Posted by adhyeta View Post
    solve the inequality

    (3x^2-10x+3)(2x^2-5x+2)<0

    i got 1/3<x<1/2 or 2<x<3 Mr F says: This answer is correct.

    & the answer is x<1/3 Mr F says: This answer is wrong. eg. x = 0 clearly does not satisfy the inequality.
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