Show no positive integers m for which m^4 + 2m^3 + 2m^2 + 2m + 1 is a perfect square. Are there any positive integers m for which m^4 +m^3 +m^2 +m+1 is a perfect square?

If so, find all such m.

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- Apr 28th 2009, 08:42 AMFayyazno positive integers
Show no positive integers m for which m^4 + 2m^3 + 2m^2 + 2m + 1 is a perfect square. Are there any positive integers m for which m^4 +m^3 +m^2 +m+1 is a perfect square?

If so, find all such m. - Apr 28th 2009, 09:05 AMrunning-gag
- Apr 28th 2009, 10:50 AMSoroban
Hello, Fayyaz!

running-gag has an excellent proof, but omitted the punchline.

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$\displaystyle N \;=\;m^4 + 2m^3 + 2m^2 + 2m + 1 \;=\; m^4 + 2m^2 + 1 + 2m^3 + 2m$

. . $\displaystyle =\; (m^2 + 1)^2 + 2m\,(m^2 + 1) \;=\; (m^2 + 1)\,(m^2 + 2m + 1) \;=\; (m^2 + 1)\,(m+1)^2$

If $\displaystyle N$ is a square, then $\displaystyle (m^2+1)$ must be a square.

. . Hence, $\displaystyle m^2 + 1 \:=\:a^2\quad\hdots$ for some integer $\displaystyle a.$

Then: .$\displaystyle a^2-m^2 \:=\:1 \quad\hdots $ two squares differ by 1.

. . But the only two squares that differ by 1 are: .$\displaystyle a = \pm1,\text{ and }\, m = 0$

Since $\displaystyle m$ must be ainteger, no solution exists.*positive*

- May 3rd 2009, 03:05 AMFayyaz
thanks guys

how should i proceed with the next bit:

Are there any positive integers m for which m^4 +m^3 +m^2 +m+1 is a perfect square? - May 5th 2009, 12:41 PMGrandad
- May 7th 2009, 09:51 AMFayyaz
hi

thanks, yeah i figured that out using excel spreadsheet, but anyway I can do an algebraic proof?