Log/Exponential problem

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October 31st 2008, 04:11 PM
Uncle6

Log/Exponential problem

I have a log/exponential problem I need help with:

$4^x + 6( 4 ^ {-x} ) = 5<br />$

So far the only thing i've thought of is to change 6 and 5 into a base of 4.

$6 = 4^\frac {\log_6}{log_4}$

If u can help, thanks!
October 31st 2008, 04:15 PM
Jhevon

Quote:

Originally Posted by Uncle6

I have a log/exponential problem I need help with:

$4^x + 6( 4 ^ x ) = 5<br />$

So far the only thing i've thought of is to change 6 and 5 into a base of 4.

$6 = 4^\frac {\log_6}{log_4}$

If u can help, thanks!

why would you do that?

$4^x + 6(4^x) = 5$

$\Rightarrow 7(4^x) = 5$

$\Rightarrow 4^x = \frac 57$

can you finish?
October 31st 2008, 04:20 PM
Shyam

Quote:

Originally Posted by Uncle6

I have a log/exponential problem I need help with:

$4^x + 6( 4 ^ x ) = 5<br />$

So far the only thing i've thought of is to change 6 and 5 into a base of 4.

$6 = 4^\frac {\log_6}{log_4}$

If u can help, thanks!

$4^x+6(4^x)=5$

take common, $4^x$

$4^x(1+6)=5$

$4^x=\frac{5}{7}$

Now, take natural log on both sides,

$\ln \;(4^x)=\ln \left(\frac{5}{7}\right)$

now simplify further.
October 31st 2008, 04:30 PM
Uncle6

Whoops, my bad, the question is actually has a $4^{-x}$ . Which is why I found this question to be so hard =S
October 31st 2008, 04:37 PM
Jhevon

Quote:

Originally Posted by Uncle6

Whoops, my bad, the question is actually has a $4^{-x}$ . Which is why I found this question to be so hard =S

which of the $4^x$ 's should be $4^{-x}$ ??
October 31st 2008, 04:55 PM
Uncle6

uhh, I fixed it up there.
October 31st 2008, 05:03 PM
Jhevon

Quote:

Originally Posted by Uncle6

uhh, I fixed it up there.

ok, here's the trick

multiply through by $4^x$ , we get:

$(4^x)^2 + 6 = 5(4^x)$

or in other words,

$(4^x)^2 - 5(4^x) + 6 = 0$

now do you see what to do?

to make it a bit clearer, what if we made $a = 4^x$ , then we have

$a^2 - 5a + 6 = 0$

now continue
October 31st 2008, 05:10 PM
Uncle6

WOW! that realy helps, thanks! I swear, I'd never see that trick..
October 31st 2008, 05:26 PM
Jhevon

Quote:

Originally Posted by Uncle6

WOW! that realy helps, thanks! I swear, I'd never see that trick..

tell us your solution when finished
November 1st 2008, 03:06 PM
Uncle6

x= 1/2 or around 0.792
November 1st 2008, 04:39 PM
Shyam

Quote:

Originally Posted by Uncle6

x= 1/2 or around 0.792

$(4^x)^2 - 5(4^x) + 6 = 0$

$(4^x-2)(4^x-3)=0$

$4^x=2$

$2^{2x}=2^1$

2x=1

x=1/2

Also,

$4^x=3$

$x \ln 4 = \ln 3$

$x = \frac{\ln 3}{\ln 4}=0.792$

x = 1/2, 0.792

your answers are right