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    Question Algebra problem

    Here is the statement: Many people are sharing a bill. The payment would have been 40cents less per person if they had been 10 people more. In reverse, they would have pay 50 cents more per person if they had been 5 people less. What is the x number of person? And what amount would they each pay?

    Here is what I did:

    What I'm looking for:
    1. the number of person, x
    2. the amount each paid, y
    3. the bill amount, xy

    What I know:
    - the bill would have been 0.40$ less per person if they had been 10 person more. (y-0.40) (x+10) = xy
    - the bille would have been 0.50$ more if they had been 5 person less.
    (y+0.50) (x-5) = xy

    I can simplify both of these:

    (y-0.40) (x+10) xy
    xy+10y-10x-4=xy
    10y-0.40x=4

    (y+0.50) (x-5) = xy
    xy-5y+0.50x-2.5 = xy
    0.50x-5y=2.5 or x-10y=5

    Adding those 2 equations:

    -0.40x+10y=4
    + x-10y = 5
    ---------------
    0.6x = 9
    x = 15

    Replacing x and finding y:

    (y+0.50) (15-5) = 15y
    15y-5y+7.5-2.5 = 15y
    -5y = -5
    y = 1

    So, I get that there are 15 people and they each paid 1$

    Is there something wrong in this?
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    Question HW3-Qst 10 : parenthesis and [] use in equations

    I'm writing this:

    4018.60+(0.07x4018.60)+[((0.07x4018.60)+4018.60)0.075]=4622.40

    I want this the third part to be done in this order:

    (0.07x4018.60) = 281.302
    +4018.60 = 4299.902
    x 0.075 = 322.49265

    So that the calculation should be:

    4018.60 + 281.302 + 322.49265 = 4622.39465

    Would someone do it that way, with the () and [] that I used?
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    Quote Originally Posted by Neenoon View Post
    Here is the statement: Many people are sharing a bill. The payment would have been 40cents less per person if they had been 10 people more. In reverse, they would have pay 50 cents more per person if they had been 5 people less. What is the x number of person? And what amount would they each pay?

    Here is what I did:

    What I'm looking for:
    1. the number of person, x
    2. the amount each paid, y
    3. the bill amount, xy

    What I know:
    - the bill would have been 0.40$ less per person if they had been 10 person more. (y-0.40) (x+10) = xy
    - the bille would have been 0.50$ more if they had been 5 person less.
    (y+0.50) (x-5) = xy

    I can simplify both of these:

    (y-0.40) (x+10) xy
    xy+10y-10x-4=xy
    10y-0.40x=4

    (y+0.50) (x-5) = xy
    xy-5y+0.50x-2.5 = xy
    0.50x-5y=2.5 or x-10y=5

    Adding those 2 equations:

    -0.40x+10y=4
    + x-10y = 5
    ---------------
    0.6x = 9
    x = 15

    Replacing x and finding y:

    (y+0.50) (15-5) = 15y
    15y-5y+7.5-2.5 = 15y
    -5y = -5
    y = 1

    So, I get that there are 15 people and they each paid 1$

    Is there something wrong in this?
    None.

    If you want to be sure, check back your answers against the original equations.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Neenoon View Post
    I'm writing this:

    4018.60+(0.07x4018.60)+[((0.07x4018.60)+4018.60)0.075]=4622.40

    I want this the third part to be done in this order:

    (0.07x4018.60) = 281.302
    +4018.60 = 4299.902
    x 0.075 = 322.49265

    So that the calculation should be:

    4018.60 + 281.302 + 322.49265 = 4622.39465

    Would someone do it that way, with the () and [] that I used?
    I might do it differently, but yours is okay.

    The checkers, or the people checking your solution, might get lost at your
    (0.07x4018.60) = 281.302
    +4018.60 = 4299.902
    x 0.075 = 322.49265

    but if no one is to check your computations, then you did it fine.

    Maybe you could have written the above like this;
    (0.07x4018.60) = 281.302

    281.302 +4018.60 = 4299.902
    4299.902 * 0.075 = 322.49265

    I always believe in whatever ways a solution goes as long as the solver understands himself and his solution such that he can review for mistakes in his "unique" solution if necessary.
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    Question

    My question really is, is the notation correct?

    Will this: 4018.60+(0.07x4018.60)+[((0.07x4018.60)+4018.60)0.075]

    get the answer 4622.60$?

    Thank you so much for looking at this for me.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Neenoon View Post
    My question really is, is the notation correct?

    Will this: 4018.60+(0.07x4018.60)+[((0.07x4018.60)+4018.60)0.075]

    get the answer 4622.60$?

    Thank you so much for looking at this for me.
    Oh, is that what your notation means? Answer?

    (4018.60)(1.07)(1.075) = 4622.39465
    That should be $4622.40
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    Quote Originally Posted by ticbol View Post
    None.

    If you want to be sure, check back your answers against the original equations.
    Thank you for checking this problem, and I did the validation like you said.
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