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    Unhappy Solve the folowing system of equations

    Solve the folowing system of equations
    $\begin{cases}
    & \text{ if } {x}^{3}(1-x)+{y}^{3}(1-y) =12xy+18\\
    & \text{ if } |3x-2y+10|+|2x-3y|=10
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    Re: Solve the folowing system of equations

    Your post is not displaying correctly (at least for me).
    What kind of code is that?
    Is that supposed to be LaTeX?
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    Re: Solve the folowing system of equations

    Is it supposed to be like this?

    Solve the folowing system of equations

    \begin{cases} \text{ if } {x}^{3}(1-x)+{y}^{3}(1-y) =12xy+18\\ \text{ if } |3x-2y+10|+|2x-3y|=10 \end{cases}
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    Re: Solve the folowing system of equations

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    Yes, it is. Please help me
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    Re: Solve the folowing system of equations

    Help you how? We have no idea what you know or can do with this, and so can not give any hints, since you have shown no work of your own.
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    Re: Solve the folowing system of equations

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    Help you how? We have no idea what you know or can do with this, and so can not give any hints, since you have shown no work of your own.
    \begin{cases} \text{ if } {x}^{3}(1-x)+{y}^{3}(1-y) =12xy+18\\ \text{ if } |3x-2y+10|+|2x-3y|=10 \end{cases}
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    Re: Solve the folowing system of equations

    See the original thread here.

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    Re: Solve the folowing system of equations

    Quote Originally Posted by topsquark View Post
    See the original thread here.

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    Re: Solve the folowing system of equations

    thth776 is taking a vacation.

    Still, if anyone knows how to start this I'd appreciate the hint. I'm kinda curious how to go about this one myself.

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    Edit: Silly me. Just graph the thing. No worries then.
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    Re: Solve the folowing system of equations

    There could be a different approach. Let us see if get a different idea. In the mean time have this
    Hint: recollect the definition of modulus function, |x| = x for all x >= 0 and |x| = -x for all x <0.
    For second case first go by the assumption that 3x-2y+10 >0 and 2x-3y>0, then proceed by solving with elimination by substitution.
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    Re: Solve the folowing system of equations

    In other words, because 3x-2y+10 and 2x-3y are expressed as absolute-value functions, we have to assume both for when they are positive, and for when they are negative.

    Because the two absolute value functions are being added together, they are commutative, and four possibilities will arise. Two of which will have real-valued solutions.

    One of them is easy enough to solve.

    The other requires solving a quartic function.
    Last edited by Lambin; May 31st 2013 at 07:43 PM.
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    Re: Solve the folowing system of equations

    Quote Originally Posted by Lambin View Post
    In other words, because 3x-2y+10 and 2x-3y are expressed as absolute-value functions, we have to assume both for when they are positive, and for when they are negative.

    Because the two absolute value functions are being added together, they are commutative, and four possibilities will arise. Two of which will have real-valued solutions.

    One of them is easy enough to solve.

    The other requires solving a quartic function.
    Can you speak clearly?
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    Re: Solve the folowing system of equations

    Sure. When you think about absolute value functions, by definition, we know that the outcome is always positive no matter whether we have a negative or positive value on the inside.

    For example,

    |3| = 3 and |-3| = 3.

    It didn't matter whether it was a 3 or a -3, the outcome is a positive 3.

    So, if we turned things around and wanted to solve for an unknown variable in an absolute value function:

    |x| = ?

    How would we know whether the x was a positive or negative value? Regardless of whether it is positive or negative, the outcome is going to be the same—it will be a positive outcome. So because they share the same outcome, we consider both the positive and negative value as solutions of the absolute-value function that are both valid. In this latter example, it would mean that we have to consider BOTH x and -x as solutions.

    How does this connect with our problem in this post?

    When we work with analytic expressions instead of numbers in absolute-value functions, we don't treat them differently.

    So, with |4x+3|=y, we have to consider two things:

    1. 4x+3=y
    2. -(4x+3)=y

    See?

    This would mean that for |3x-2y+10|+|2x-3y|=10, you would discover that there would be four equations. Think about what was shown earlier, and see how it relates with this problem. With these four equations, we have a system of equations with x^3(1-y)+y^3(1-x)=12xy+18.

    You would have to solve from here—seeing where the four equations intersect with x^3(1-y)+y^3(1-x)=12xy+18.
    Last edited by Lambin; June 4th 2013 at 01:27 PM.
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    Re: Solve the folowing system of equations

    Quote Originally Posted by Lambin View Post
    Sure. When you think about absolute value functions, by definition, we know that the outcome is always positive no matter whether we have a negative or positive value on the inside.

    For example,

    |3| = 3 and |-3| = 3.

    It didn't matter whether it was a 3 or a -3, the outcome is a positive 3.

    So, if we turned things around and wanted to solve for an unknown variable in an absolute value function:

    |x| = ?

    How would we know whether the x was a positive or negative value? Regardless of whether it is positive or negative, the outcome is going to be the same—it will be a positive outcome. So because they share the same outcome, we consider both the positive and negative value as solutions of the absolute-value function that are both valid. In this latter example, it would mean that we have to consider BOTH x and -x as solutions.

    How does this connect with our problem in this post?

    When we work with analytic expressions instead of numbers in absolute-value functions, we don't treat them differently.

    So, with |4x+3|=y, we have to consider two things:

    1. 4x+3=y
    2. -(4x+3)=y

    See?

    This would mean that for |3x-2y+10|+|2x-3y|=10, you would discover that there would be four equations. Think about what was shown earlier, and see how it relates with this problem. With these four equations, we have a system of equations with x^3(1-y)+y^3(1-x)=12xy+18.

    You would have to solve from here—seeing where the four equations intersect with x^3(1-y)+y^3(1-x)=12xy+18.
    It was difficult . Can you solve clearly?
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    Re: Solve the folowing system of equations

    Toàn là một lũ cùi mía, đ' đứa nào bít giải, dẹp mẹ cái trang này đi
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