# Thread: sinus and absolute value

1. ## sinus and absolute value

Hi everyone, i must deduce this inequality : $\forall a \in \mathbb{R} \left| sin(a) \right| \le \left| a \right|$ from this one : $\forall a \in \mathbb{R}+, -a\le sin(a) \le a$
Thank you

2. ## Re: sinus and absolute value

Originally Posted by Groundeleven
Hi everyone, i must deduce this inequality : $\forall a \in \mathbb{R} \left| sin(a) \right| \le \left| a \right|$ from this one : $\forall a \in \mathbb{R}+, -a\le sin(a) \le a$
I am confused as to the exact question.
Are you saying that you know $\forall a \in \mathbb{R}^+, -a\le sin(a) \le a$ and from that you need to prove $\forall a \in \mathbb{R}^+ \left| sin(a) \right| \le \left| a \right|~?$

If so surely you understand that if $a>0\text{ and }-a\le b\le a\text{ then }|b|\le |a|$.

This is a standard theorem: $-|a|\le b\le |a|\text{ if and only if }|b|\le |a|~.$

3. ## Re: sinus and absolute value

Plato, I read this in exactly the opposite- the OP knows $-a\le sin(x)\le a$ and must deduce |sin(a)\le |a|. Of course, the definition of |a| is "|a|= a if $a\ge 0$ and $|a|= -a$ if x< 0". That should be sufficient.

4. ## Re: sinus and absolute value

Originally Posted by HallsofIvy
Plato, I read this in exactly the opposite- the OP knows $-a\le sin(x)\le a$ and must deduce |sin(a)\le |a|. Of course, the definition of |a| is "|a|= a if $a\ge 0$ and $|a|= -a$ if x< 0". That should be sufficient.
How is that opposite from what I posted?