# Confusing range of a Relation.

• Jun 28th 2012, 03:56 PM
Kaloda
Confusing range of a Relation.
Okay. So our assignment is to get the domain, range, intercepts, etc. of the relation (also a function but not expressed as one)
$5y(x-3)(x-1)=2(5x+3)$. I didn't have a problem at all till I realize that I got $(-\infty,-5]\cup[-1/5,0)\cup(0,+\infty)$
(I EXCLUDED ZERO because when I solved for x, y is in the DENOMINATOR) as the range and have an x-intercept $(-3/5,0)$
which is a contradiction with the range.

Now, it leaves me with a dilemma because I can't include zero in the range because x will be undefined (at least if you use quadratic formula by manipulating the given equation which I think alters its nature I presume), and I can't just simply remove the x-intercept because of the same reason.

Here's my question, do I include zero in the range OR remove the x-intercept OR just leave my answer as it is.
• Jun 28th 2012, 04:45 PM
pickslides
Re: Confusing range of a Relation.
It seems to me that $y \in \mathbb{R}$ and $x \in (-\infty, 1) \cup ( 1,3) \cup (3,\infty)$ , your x-intercept is correct. Include y=0 in the range as it gives a corresponding x-value.

What about when $x=0$ ?
• Jun 28th 2012, 05:37 PM
Kaloda
Re: Confusing range of a Relation.
Quote:

Originally Posted by pickslides
It seems to me that $y \in \mathbb{R}$

Huh? Do you mean that the range is all real numbers? I think you must recheck it (or maybe I'm the one who is wrong).
• Jun 28th 2012, 05:38 PM
Soroban
Re: Confusing range of a Relation.
Hello, Kaloda!

I think you're confusing yourself . . .

Quote:

Find the domain, range, intercepts, etc. of the relation: . $5y(x-3)(x-1)\:=\:2(5x+3)$

We have: . $y \;=\;\frac{2}{5}\cdot\frac{5x+3}{(x-3)(x-1)}$

If $y = 0\!:\;x = \text{-}\tfrac{3}{5}\;\hdots\;x\text{-intercept: }\left(\text{-}\tfrac{3}{5},\:0\right)$

If $x = 0\!:\;y = \tfrac{2}{5}\;\hdots\;y\text{-intercept: }\left(0,\:\tfrac{2}{5}\right)$

Horizontal asymptote: . $y = 0$
Vertical asymptotes: . $x = 1,\;x = 3$

Domain: . $x \ne 1,\:x \ne 3$
. . . . . . . $(\text{-}\infty,\,1)\,\cup\,(1,\,3)\,\cup\,(3,\,\infty)$

Range: difficult to determine without using Calculus.

The graph looks something like this:

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                        |                         | :        :                         | :        :*                         |*:        :                         | :        : *                         | :        :  *                         oB:        :    *                       A | :        :          *   - -------------------o+-:---------:--------------         *            * | :1        :3               *    *  | :        :                 o      | :        :                 D      | :    C    :                         | :    o    :                         | :  *  *  :                         | : *    * :                         | :        :                         | :*        *:
$A\text{ and }B\text{ are the }x\text{- and }y\text{-intercepts, respectively.}$

$C\text{ has coordinates: }\,\left(\tfrac{9}{5},\text{-}5\right)$
$D\text{ has coordinates: }\,\left(\text{-}3,\,\text{-}\tfrac{1}{5}\right)$

Therefore, the range is: . $\left(\text{-}\infty,\,\text{-}5)\,\cup\,\leeft(\text{-}\tfrac{1}{5},\,\infty\right)$