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    Finding the vertex at a given point?

    Find b and c so that the parabola has vertex .

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    Re: Finding the vertex at a given point?

    Use completing the square:
    Convert y to y=(x-a)^2+q
    Where (a,q) are the coordinates of the vertex.
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    Re: Finding the vertex at a given point?

    Quote Originally Posted by habibixox View Post
    Find b and c so that the parabola has vertex .

    What do I do here?
    Hi habibixox,

    At the vertex of the parabola the first derivative of y becomes zero. So calculate, \frac{dy}{dx} and equate it to zero. Since the corresponding x value at the vertex is given you can find b. I hope you can do it now.
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    Re: Finding the vertex at a given point?

    wait so is it
    x^2-18x+91?
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    Re: Finding the vertex at a given point?

    using the second method the derivative is
    -8x + x right?
    set that = 0

    0= -8x + x
    0= X(-8+1)
    so final answer is 0?
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    Re: Finding the vertex at a given point?

    nvm b = 72 now im working on c ill get it i understand it...
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    Re: Finding the vertex at a given point?

    Quote Originally Posted by habibixox View Post
    using the second method the derivative is
    -8x + x right?
    set that = 0

    0= -8x + x
    0= X(-8+1)
    so final answer is 0?
    No.

    y=-4x^2+bx+c

    \frac{dy}{dx}=-4(2x)+b(1)+0

    \frac{dy}{dx}=-8x+b

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    Re: Finding the vertex at a given point?

    The method I was thinking about is the following.
    Given is the parabola: y=-4x^2+bx+c and the vertex point with coordinates (9,10)
    In general we know we can directly read the coordinates of the vertex of a parabola if we convert y to:
    y=a(x-h)^2+q where (h,q) are the coordinates of the parabola.

    First, divide every term by -4 so:
    \frac{y}{-4}=x^2-\frac{b}{4}x-\frac{c}{4}
    Use completing the square in the RHS:
    \frac{y}{-4}=\left(x-\frac{b}{8}\right)^2-\frac{b^2}{64}-\frac{c}{4}
    \Leftrightarrow y=-4\left(x-\frac{b}{8}\right)^2+\frac{b^2}{16}+c

    That means:
    (1) \frac{b}{8}=9 \Leftrightarrow b=72 (1)
    (2)  \frac{b^2}{16}+c=10 (2)
    Substituting (1) in (2) gives:
    324+c=10 \Leftrightarrow c=-314

    Therefore the parabola with vertex (9,10) is:
    y=-4x^2+72x-314

    But as you see, the method sudharaka wants to use is easier.
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