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    Find first term and common ratio of Geometric progression

    Hi All,

    I need a hint for this one. I think I may be missing something here.

    Find the first term and common ratio if,

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33S_5 = S_{10}<br />

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S_{10} = S_9 + 5<br />

    Thanks for your help!
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    Who are S_5, S_9, S_{10}? Write their formula using the first term (let's say b_1) and the ration (q), then you'll have a system of equations in two unknowns.
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    I suppose S_5,S_9,S_{10} are, respectively, the sum of first 5,9 and 10 terms--right?

    If this is the case and first term= a, ratio= r, then the sum of the GP series upto first n terms will be

    S_n=a+ar+ar^2+ar^3+...+ar^{n-1}

    =a[1+r+r^2+r^3+....+r^{n-1}]

    =a\frac{r^n-1}{r-1}

    So your first equation reduces to 33a\frac{r^5-1}{r-1}=a\frac{r^{10}-1}{r-1} and second equation reduces to a\frac{r^{10}-1}{r-1}=a\frac{r^9-1}{r-1}+5

    Solve these two equations to get a and r.
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    geometric progressions

    Hi mathguy80,
    Sambits first equation can be simplified to produce a quadratic equation in one unknown (r) SUbstitute r in the second to find a.


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    Thanks guys, That clears things up. The quadratic equation was the key. I was a little confused by the large power and thought I wouldn't be able to factorize. Substituting, r^5 = p made it into a simple quadratic to solve!
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