# Thread: Find largest square number - without using calculator

1. ## Find largest square number - without using calculator

Hey All,

This problem must be done without the use of a calculator. I am able to guesstimate my way to a close enough answer but need some help to improve this.

If n is the largest square number such that $s \leq n$, find s when

(i) $n = 6.4 \times 10^{3}$

(ii) $n = 6.4 \times 10^{6}$

I got (i) $s = 6400$ easily since its a perfect square,

For (ii) I wrote the number as $64 \times 10^{4} \times 10$

Then nearest perfect square close to 10 is 9, so $s \approx 8^{2} \times 100^{2} \times 3^{2}$

From there I figured that the number is between $2400^{2}$ and further got to $s = 2500^{2} = 6250000$

The problem is that the required answer is $6395841$ and the weight-age is only 1 mark. Using the calculator suggests this is the exactly correct answer.

But since this is a non-calculator use problem, leads me to believe I am missing an obvious/simpler/faster way of getting there. What am I missing?

Thanks again for all your help.

2. Originally Posted by mathguy80
Hey All,

This problem must be done without the use of a calculator. I am able to guesstimate my way to a close enough answer but need some help to improve this.

If n <-- typo? Shouldn't that be s? is the largest square number such that $s \leq n$, find s when

(i) $n = 6.4 \times 10^{3}$

(ii) $n = 6.4 \times 10^{6}$

I got (i) $s = 6400$ easily since its a perfect square,

For (ii) I wrote the number as $64 \times 10^{4} \times 10$

Then nearest perfect square close to 10 is 9, so $s \approx 8^{2} \times 100^{2} \times 3^{2}$

From there I figured that the number is between $2400^{2}$ and further got to $s = 2500^{2} = 6250000$

The problem is that the required answer is $6395841$ and the weight-age is only 1 mark. Using the calculator suggests this is the exactly correct answer.

But since this is a non-calculator use problem, leads me to believe I am missing an obvious/simpler/faster way of getting there. What am I missing?

Thanks again for all your help.
I'm only guessing:

$6.4 \cdot 10^6 = 640 \cdot 100^2$

So $25 < a < 26$ (see attachment)

Use linear interpolation. According to my sketch $a \approx 25 + \frac{15}{51}$

Since you multiply the apprximate value of a by 100 to get s you only have to calculate the first two digits of $\frac{15}{51} = 0.29$

Thus $a = 25.29~\implies~s=2529$

3. Awesome @earboth! A much clearer and very elegant solution. Learning something new everyday here. Thanks again!