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    Find two more zeros of P(z)=2z^3+9z^2+14z+5 if -2+i is a zero.

    Hello.

    Find the other two zeroes of P(z) if -2+i is a zero or p(z)=2z^3+9z^2+14z+5.

    My attempt:

    -2+i is a zero, so -2-i is also a zero.

    P(z)=2z^3+9z^2+14z+5
    .....=(z-[-2-i])(z-[-2-i])(z-z3)
    .....=((z+2)^2+1)(z-z3)
    .....=(z^2+4z+5)(z-z3)

    5*-z3= -5z3 (I do NOT mean -15z here)
    ......5=-5z3
    .....-1=z3

    Two other Zeroes are -2-i , -1

    However, the correct answer given in the book is
    -2-i and -0.5

    Thank you
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    Quote Originally Posted by anees7112 View Post
    Hello.

    Find the other two zeroes of P(z) if -2+i is a zero or p(z)=2z^3+9z^2+14z+5.

    My attempt:

    -2+i is a zero, so -2-i is also a zero.

    P(z)=2z^3+9z^2+14z+5
    .....=(z-[-2-i])(z-[-2-i])(z-z3)
    .....=((z+2)^2+1)(z-z3)
    .....=(z^2+4z+5)(z-z3)

    5*-z3= -5z3 (I do NOT mean -15z here)
    ......5=-5z3
    .....-1=z3

    Two other Zeroes are -2-i , -1

    However, the correct answer given in the book is
    -2-i and -0.5

    Thank you
    Hi anees7112,

    I'm not at all sure what you're attempting to do with your approach.

    You are correct that 2\:-\:i is also a factor (Complex conjugants)

    to find any other zeros, I would use the Rational Roots Theorem and test

    \pm 1\,\,\pm 5\,\ \pm\frac{1}{2}\,\pm \frac{5}{2}

    You should discover that -\frac{1}{2} is a zero.
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    Quote Originally Posted by masters View Post
    Hi anees7112,

    I'm not at all sure what you're attempting to do with your approach.

    You are correct that 2\:-\:i is also a factor (Complex conjugants)

    to find any other zeros, I would use the Rational Roots Theorem and test

    \pm 1\,\,\pm 5\,\ \pm\frac{1}{2}\,\pm \frac{5}{2}

    You should discover that -\frac{1}{2} is a zero.

    Hello masters.

    I will show a worked solution from the textbook which i tried to follow.



    And thank you , I did not know about the rational roots theorem , but googled it after you mentioned it and it helped very much. But if possible could you also show me how to do the the way the the books does it.
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    note the coefficient of z^3 in the original polynomial ...

    2(z^3 + 4.5z^2 + 7z + 2.5) = 0

    z^3 + 4.5z^2 + 7z + 2.5 = 0
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    Hello, anees7112!

    \text{Find the other two zeroes of}\,P(z) \:=\:2z^3 + 9z^2 + 14z + 5

    \text{if }\text{-}2+i\text{ is a zero.}

    If \text{-}2 + i is a zero, then \boxed{\text{-}2 - i} is also a zero.

    \text{Then: }\:z - (\text{-}2+i) \,=\,z + 2 - i\text{ is a factor of }P(z),
    . \text{ and: }\:z - (\text{-}2-i) \,=\,z + 2 + i \text{ is a factor of }P(z).

    \text{Hence: }\,(z+2-i)(z+2+i) \,=\,z^2 + 4z + 5\text{ is a factor of }P(z).


    \text{We find that: }\:P(z) \;=\;(z^2 + 4z + 5)(2z + 1)

    \text{The third zero is: }\,\boxed{\text{-}\tfrac{1}{2}}

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    Thank you very much Soroban I understand how to do it now!
    Thanks also masters and skeeter

    Have a great day!
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    Quote Originally Posted by anees7112 View Post
    Hello.

    Find the other two zeroes of P(z) if -2+i is a zero or p(z)=2z^3+9z^2+14z+5.

    My attempt:

    -2+i is a zero, so -2-i is also a zero.

    P(z)=2z^3+9z^2+14z+5
    .....=(z-[-2-i])(z-[-2-i])(z-z3)

    Your error is in the above line
    z(z)(2z)=2z^3
    so your third factor should be

    2z-2z_3

    The remainder of your text is corrected from here

    .....=((z+2)^2+1)(2z-2z3)
    .....=(z^2+4z+5)(2z-2z3)

    5*(-2z3)= -10z3
    ......5=-10z3
    .....-0.5=z3

    Two other Zeroes are -2-i , -0.5

    Thank you
    [z-(-2-i)][z-(2-i)][2z-2z_3]=2z^3+9z^2+14z+5
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    Quote Originally Posted by Archie Meade View Post
    [z-(-2-i)][z-(2-i)][2z-2z_3]=2z^3+9z^2+14z+5

    Great, the method I was looking for Thank you very much Archie Meade! It i nice to know how the textbook solved it.
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    Quote Originally Posted by anees7112 View Post
    Hello.

    Find the other two zeroes of P(z) if -2+i is a zero or p(z)=2z^3+9z^2+14z+5.

    My attempt:

    -2+i is a zero, so -2-i is also a zero.

    P(z)=2z^3+9z^2+14z+5
    .....=(z-[-2-i])(z-[-2-i])(z-z3)

    At this point you have dropped the "2" multiplying z^3.

    .....=((z+2)^2+1)(z-z3)
    You should have "= 2((z+2)^2+ 1)(z- z3)".

    .....=(z^2+4z+5)(z-z3)

    5*-z3= -5z3 (I do NOT mean -15z here)
    ......5=-5z3
    .....-1=z3
    2*5*-z3= -10z3= 5 so z3= -1/2.

    Two other Zeroes are -2-i , -1

    However, the correct answer given in the book is
    -2-i and -0.5

    Thank you
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