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    [SOLVED] Simplifying Radicals

    Show using Bombelli's Method that \sqrt[3]{\sqrt{325}+18} - \sqrt[3]{\sqrt{325}-18} = 3

    So I assume the form of the expressions by letting
    1. \sqrt[3]{\sqrt{325}+18} = \sqrt{a} + b
    2. \sqrt[3]{\sqrt{325}-18} = \sqrt{a} - b

    Multiply 1 and 2 and you get: 1 = a - b^2
    Cube both sides of 1 and you get: a^{\frac{3}{2}} + 3ab + 3\sqrt{a}b + b^3 = 18 + \sqrt{325}
    Which means a^{\frac{3}{2}} + 3\sqrt{a}{b} = \sqrt{325}
    and 3ab + b^3 = 18

    But I can't get an answer from the equations. Any help would be greatly appreciated
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    Hello Haven
    Quote Originally Posted by Haven View Post
    Show using Bombelli's Method that \sqrt[3]{\sqrt{325}+18} - \sqrt[3]{\sqrt{325}-18} = 3

    So I assume the form of the expressions by letting
    1. \sqrt[3]{\sqrt{325}+18} = \sqrt{a} + b
    2. \sqrt[3]{\sqrt{325}-18} = \sqrt{a} - b

    Multiply 1 and 2 and you get: 1 = a - b^2
    Cube both sides of 1 and you get: a^{\frac{3}{2}} + 3ab + 3\sqrt{a}b + b^3 = 18 + \sqrt{325}
    Which means a^{\frac{3}{2}} + 3\sqrt{a}{b} = \sqrt{325}
    and 3ab + b^3 = 18

    But I can't get an answer from the equations. Any help would be greatly appreciated
    Bombelli's method is new to me! I should not have thought of using \sqrt a + b and \sqrt a - b.

    I agree with your equations, although I think that in order to justify the last two you also need to cube both sides of (2) to get:
    a^{\frac{3}{2}} - 3ab + 3\sqrt{a}b - b^3 = 18 -\sqrt{325}
    and then subtract this from your previous equation, before dividing by 2 to get:
    3ab + b^3 = 18
    Then it's a simple matter of eliminating a by substitution:
    a = b^2+1

    \Rightarrow 3(b^2+1)b + b^3 = 188

    \Rightarrow 4b^3+3b-18=0

    \Rightarrow (2b-3)(2b^2-3b+6)=0

    \Rightarrow b = \tfrac32, since the discriminant of the second factor is negative

    \Rightarrow \sqrt[3]{\sqrt{325}+18} - \sqrt[3]{\sqrt{325}-18} = 2b
    =3
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    Bombelli's method is for simplifying the answers given by Cardano's formulas for cubic equations.
    Cubic function - Wikipedia, the free encyclopedia
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    Hello Haven
    Quote Originally Posted by Haven View Post
    Thanks.
    Bombelli's method is for simplifying the answers given by Cardano's formulas for cubic equations.
    Cubic function - Wikipedia, the free encyclopedia
    Wow! That all looks pretty fearsome! I think I'll stick to quadratics.

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