For both questions below, solve each equation in the real number system.

[1] x^3 + (3x^2/2) + 3x - 2 = 0

[2] 2x^4 + x^3 - 24x^2 + 20x + 16 = 0

NOTE: I do not understand the wording "...solve each equation in the real number system."

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- Feb 1st 2007, 02:58 PMfdrhsReal Number System
For both questions below, solve each equation in the real number system.

[1] x^3 + (3x^2/2) + 3x - 2 = 0

[2] 2x^4 + x^3 - 24x^2 + 20x + 16 = 0

NOTE: I do not understand the wording "...solve each equation in the real number system." - Feb 1st 2007, 04:31 PMThePerfectHacker
- Feb 1st 2007, 05:30 PMAlvinCY

By trial and error (or the way I did it was to plot the graph), you'll find that is a solution.

Indeed, by polynomial division, we see that:

and we know that cannot be factorised over the Real field as its determinant is less than 0.

Once again, by trial and error (or plot the graph), you'll find that is a solution.

Factorising this:

, for neater form:

We know we can't simplify this further as has a determinant which is less than 0, so this second question has and - Feb 1st 2007, 10:39 PMCaptainBlack
- Feb 2nd 2007, 02:40 AMAlvinCY
- Feb 2nd 2007, 04:06 AMtopsquark
In the event you don't know a way to start finding solutions to these (AlvinCY used, presumably logical, guesswork) you can use the "Rational Root Theorem" to come up with some possibilities.

Given , any rational roots of this polynomial equation will be of the form: . There may, of course, be other real solutions to the equation, but this will give you a list to start with, anyway.

-Dan

Can't EVER do too much Physics! ;)

-Dan - Feb 2nd 2007, 06:22 AMSoroban
Hello, fdrhs!

The second one factors . . . if you*hammer*at it long enough.

Quote:

Factor "by grouping" . . .

We find that is a zero of cubic. .Hence, is a factor.

And we have: .

. . . . . Then: .

. . . . . And: .

Therefore, the four roots are: .

- Feb 2nd 2007, 07:54 AMearboth
- Feb 2nd 2007, 01:47 PMAlvinCY
I do apologise, I was doing it at late hours of night while chatting on MSN with others about their weekends. :p

Thanks for picking it up guys, and yes, I do mean discriminants... and no it wasn't negative, therefore you CAN factorise it.

I certainly look like a little bit of a fool at the moment :p

Thanks guys.