# joint / marginal pdf

• May 18th 2009, 09:11 AM
jennifer1004
joint / marginal pdf
Let the independent random variables X1 and X2 be N(0,1) and $\displaystyle X^{2}(r)$, respectively. Ley $\displaystyle Y1=\frac{X1}{\sqrt\frac{X^{2}}{r}}$ and Y2=X2.

a) Find the joint pdf of Y1 and Y2
b) Determine the marginal pdf of Y1 and show that Y1 has a t distribution

Thanks!
• May 18th 2009, 09:31 AM
Moo
Hello,

I assume it's $\displaystyle Y_1=\frac{X_1}{\sqrt{\frac{X_2^2}{r}}}$ ?

Write down the joint pdf of $\displaystyle (X_1,X_2)$, which is just the product of their pdf (because they're independent)

Then, you can see that $\displaystyle X_1=Y_1\cdot\sqrt{\frac{X_2^2}{r}}=Y_1\cdot\sqrt{\ frac{Y_2^2}{r}}=Y_1Y_2 \cdot r^{-1/2}$ (because $\displaystyle Y_2=X_2>0$)

And then make the transformation
$\displaystyle T~:~ \mathbb{R}\times \mathbb{R}_+^* \to \mathbb{R}\times \mathbb{R}_+^*$
$\displaystyle (x_1,x_2) \mapsto (y_1,y_2)=\left(\frac{x_1}{\sqrt{\frac{x_2^2}{r}}} ,x_2\right)$

Also, don't forget to divide by the Jacobian !

that's pretty "long" to do, so it'd be good for you and for us that you show what you've tried/done, what you want us to correct.
• May 18th 2009, 02:35 PM
matheagle
This is okay. At first I thought you had two indep st. normals.

You need this $\displaystyle X_2$ to be a $\displaystyle \chi^2_r$.

I was lost on that missing subscript at first.
The joint density of Y1 and Y2 should factor giving you independence.
• May 20th 2009, 06:55 PM
jennifer1004
I'm sorry. It is supposed to be $\displaystyle Y_{1}=\frac{X_{1}}{\sqrt\frac{X_{2}}{r}}$and I haven't a clue where to begin. Thanks
• May 27th 2009, 05:18 PM
jennifer1004
Is this anywhere near what I am supposed to do?
Thanks!
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• May 27th 2009, 05:38 PM
matheagle
(3) is way off. you need to review jacobians from calculus 3.
• May 27th 2009, 05:41 PM
jennifer1004
Thank you. I just have my statistics book though. Could you help point me in the right direction? I don't know what I did wrong based on my text.
• May 27th 2009, 05:48 PM
matheagle
You should reread what Moo told you.
Start with..Write down the joint pdf of http://www.mathhelpforum.com/math-he...6bc02d44-1.gif, which is just the product of their pdf ..
then obtain the jacobian and change variables.
Here's a review that explains the change for polar, but it's the same idea.
http://www.maths.abdn.ac.uk/~igc/tch...es/node77.html
Here's some more calc 3...
http://tutorial.math.lamar.edu/Class...Variables.aspx

And this should be outlined in you stat book too.