# Math Exam on Monday... help please :)

• Jun 7th 2008, 07:10 AM
shinhidora
Math Exam on Monday... help please :)
Forgive me for bumping in here, without a hello-post... So consider this my hello ;) But I got math exam on monday and I'm getting quite desperate, since any of my friends can solve it either.

English isn't my native tongue and the exercise isn't in English but I did my best to translate it...

The results of the entree exam for doctors follows a normal distribution. The max score is 600. After correcting the exams it seems 15% of the participants has less than 230 and 70% has less then 425.

What is the average of the entree exam...

(Thanks to Moo for the correct manner of stating it in English)

The solution should be 359 according to the book, but I need to find out how you calculate it...
+Rep for everyone who helps!
Thx in advance :D

Edit: Just noticed I put this in the wrong place... :( should be in high school section... Blame me being frustrated because I can't find the solution :p
• Jun 7th 2008, 07:57 AM
Moo
:p

Quote:

Originally Posted by shinhidora
Forgive me for bumping in here, without a hello-post... So consider this my hello ;) But I got math exam on monday and I'm getting quite desperate, since any of my friends can solve it either.

English isn't my native tongue and the exercise isn't in English but I did my best to translate it...

The results of the entree exam for doctors is divided normally. The max score is 600. After correcting the exams it seems 15% of the participants has less than 230 and 70% has less then 425.

What is the average of the entree exam...

The solution should be 359 according to the book, but I need to find out how you calculate it...
+Rep for everyone who helps!
Thx in advance :D

Edit: Just noticed I put this in the wrong place... :( should be in high school section... Blame me being frustrated because I can't find the solution :p

Let $X$ design the random variable of the marks.
Let $\mu$ be the average of X.
Let $\sigma^2$ be the variance of X.

From the text, we have :

$P(0 \le X \le 230)=.15$

$P(0 \le X \le 425)=.7$ corrected

Make the distribution be a standard normal distribution (transforming $X$ into $\frac{X-\mu}{\sigma})$

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$\left\{\begin{array}{lll} P \left(-\frac{\mu}{\sigma} \le \frac{X-\mu}{\sigma} \le \frac{230-\mu}{\sigma} \right) &=&.15 \\ \\
P \left(\frac{-\mu}{\sigma} \le \frac{X-\mu}{\sigma} \le \frac{425-\mu}{\sigma} \right)&=&.7 \end{array} \right.$

But there is one information left !

$P(425 \le X \le 600)=1-.7=.3$ corrected

Transforming it like we did before :

$\boxed{\left\{\begin{array}{lllll} P \left(-\frac{\mu}{\sigma} \le \frac{X-\mu}{\sigma} \le \frac{230-\mu}{\sigma} \right) &=&.15 \\ \\
P \left(\frac{-\mu}{\sigma} \le \frac{X-\mu}{\sigma} \le \frac{425-\mu}{\sigma} \right)&=&.7 \\ \\
P \left(\frac{425-\mu}{\sigma} \le \frac{X-\mu}{\sigma} \le \frac{600-\mu}{\sigma} \right) &=&.3
\end{array} \right.}$

Now, transform it to a nicer way :

Let $P(Z, where $Z=\frac{X-\mu}{\sigma}$, following a standard normal distribution (I hope you're a little used to it..otherwise you won't be able to follow..), and using this table : http://sweb.cz/business.statistics/normal01.jpg

The system is now :

$\left\{\begin{array}{lllll} \pi \left(\frac{230-\mu}{\sigma}\right)-\pi \left(\frac{-\mu}{\sigma}\right)=.15 \\ \\
\pi \left(\frac{425-\mu}{\sigma}\right)-\pi \left(\frac{-\mu}{\sigma}\right)=.7 \\ \\
\pi \left(\frac{600-\mu}{\sigma}\right)-\pi \left(\frac{425-\mu}{\sigma}\right)=.3 \end{array} \right.$

You've got 4 unknowns (the pi functions) with three equations.

So try to find the values of these.. I'll give it a try after my posting...

Then, find the corresponding values of $\mu$ and $\sigma$, thanks to the table. Your problem is asking for $\mu$

I hope this is clear enough... English is not my native language either.
• Jun 7th 2008, 08:44 AM
Moo
Ok, you got to this :

230 - average/standarddeviation = -1.03643338
425 - average/standarddeviation = 0.5244005101

I don't really know how, maybe your calculator is far better than the table ^^ So I'm sorry, I won't be able to check...

$\left\{\begin{array}{lll}\frac{230-\mu}{\sigma}=-1.03643338 \\ \\
\frac{425-\mu}{\sigma}=0.5244005101 \end{array} \right.$

Rearranging :

$\left\{\begin{array}{lll}230-\mu=-1.03643338 \sigma \\ \\
\sigma=\frac{425-\mu}{0.5244005101} \end{array} \right.$

Therefore :

$\boxed{230-\mu=-1.03643338 \cdot \frac{425-\mu}{0.5244005101}}$

... (you can do the intermediate steps) ...

And it yields $\mu \approx 359.4849572861211$

(Sun)
• Jun 7th 2008, 08:51 AM
shinhidora
Quote:

Originally Posted by Moo
230 - average/standarddeviation = -1.03643338
425 - average/standarddeviation = 0.5244005101

The TI-84 Plus has a command under '2nd + Vars' called 'InvNorm'

InvNorm(0.15, 0, 1) = -1.03643338
InvNorm(0.7, 0, 1) = 0.52244005101
• Jun 7th 2008, 08:58 AM
Moo
I see what's wrong (almost) in my first post :

$\pi \left(\frac{-\mu}{\sigma}\right)=0$
and $\pi \left(\frac{600-\mu}{\sigma}\right)=1$
because 0 and 600 are the extreme values.

And it yields the system you found with your calculator (Sun)

Everything is clear on both sides now (Dance)