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    Paired difference T-Test

    The operators think that machine B tends to deliver a somewhat greater amount than machine A, no matter what the ambient temperature. This is being investigated by an experiment. A random sample of 10 results from the experiment is shown below. Each column of data is for a different ambient temperature


    Use an appropriate t test to examine, at the 5% level of significance, whether the mean amount
    delivered by machine B may be taken as being greater than that delivered by machine A,
    stating carefully your null and alternative hypotheses and the required distributional
    assumption.



    this is the table


    Amount
    delivered by 246.2 251.6 252.0 246.6 258.4 251.0 247.5 247.1 248.1 253.4
    machine A
    Amount
    delivered by 248.3 252.6 252.8 247.2 258.8 250.0 247.2 247.9 249.0 254.5

    the difference mean is 0.64


    but what i don't understand is how they get for the standard deviation s(n-1)=0.8316
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    Re: Paired difference T-Test

    Quote Originally Posted by thomasboateng View Post

    but what i don't understand is how they get for the standard deviation s(n-1)=0.8316
    I don't know what this figure is, each machine will have its own variance and because this is a paried test there will be a pooled variance to help caclulate the test statistic.

    Your null hypothesis will be

    \displaystyle H_0: \mu_B \leq \mu_A \implies \mu_B - \mu_A\leq 0

    so \displaystyle H_A: \mu_B > \mu_A \implies \mu_B - \mu_A > 0

    After doing this test I found a p-value of 0.71, what does this mean?
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    Re: Paired difference T-Test

    I understand how to get the critical value its 1.833 but i don't get how you get the p value or the standard deviation?
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    Re: Paired difference T-Test

    Quote Originally Posted by thomasboateng View Post
    I understand how to get the critical value its 1.833 but i don't get how you get the p value or the standard deviation?
    If you have the critical value you do not need the p-value, what you do need is the value of the test statistic, which you will compare with the critical value.

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    Re: Paired difference T-Test

    i see. the formula for the test statistic is easy enough except for i dont get which steps they used in order to obtain the standard deviation
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    Re: Paired difference T-Test

    question 1) explain 'greater amount' of what
    question 2) why is this a paired t-test?
    Is it just because the two samples sizes are the same?
    That necessary, not sufficient.
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    Re: Paired difference T-Test

    why wouldnt it be. it has the characteristics for a paired diff test. it doesnt matter what it produces thats not the point
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    Re: Paired difference T-Test

    If the two samples are independent then it's not a paired difference experiment.
    I do not see enough information go either way.
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    Re: Paired difference T-Test

    Quote Originally Posted by matheagle View Post
    If the two samples are independent then it's not a paired difference experiment.
    I do not see enough information go either way.
    The machines are at a common temperature which varies from sample period to sample period. The null hypothesis is that the difference between the machine outputs in a period has zero mean. A paired test is appropriate (subject to the other conditions for a t-test being applicable).

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    Re: Paired difference T-Test

    yeah i know that. but standard deviation method?
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    Re: Paired difference T-Test

    Quote Originally Posted by thomasboateng View Post
    yeah i know that. but standard deviation method?
    The SD of the differences s_D is computed in the usual way (there is just one sample of differences). Use the population SD estimate formula (that is the one with division by n-1 rather than n). The standard error is required for the test is s_D/sqrt(n) where n is the number of differences.

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    Re: Paired difference T-Test

    when you take the differences
    this just becomes a one sample test.
    t is appropriate when the population of differences is normally distributed
    and you don't have the population variance from the population of all differences
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    Re: Paired difference T-Test

    and what is this usual way?
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    Re: Paired difference T-Test

    Quote Originally Posted by thomasboateng View Post
    and what is this usual way?
    What is the formula for computing the SD form a sample?

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    Re: Paired difference T-Test

    yes this is my question what is the forumula for standard deviation.
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