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    Good textbook in statistics?

    After spending alot of time trying to learn statistics from my textbook, I've come to the conclusion that the book we use is beyond horrible. They barely explain concepts, almost never show the math behind the formulas and the overall layout is just plain bad. I looked the book up on amazon.com, and the reviews there mostly agreed with me. The book we're using is:

    Probability & Statistics for Engineers & Scientists (8th Edition) , by Walpole, Myers, Myers, Ye

    Amazon.com: Probability & Statistics for Engineers & Scientists (8th Edition) (9780131877115): Ronald E. Walpole, Raymond H. Myers, Sharon L. Myers, Keying Ye: Books

    I asked my teacher if he could recommend a better, more detailed book, and he recommended "Introduction to Mathematical Statistics and Its Applications, An, 4/E by Richard J. Larsen, Morris L. Marx". However, from what I can tell it too got some mixed reviews. One book which got good reviews on amazon was "Understanding Statistics, by Graham J.G. Upton, Ian Cook". It looks good, but doesn't quite cover our curriculum. So I figured I'd also ask if anyone on this forum could recommend a good, easy-to-follow textbook. Thanks!
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    Well, there's your problem, right there. Why would you expect significant mathematical treatment in a watered down version - indicated by "for Engineers & Scientists"?

    The title of the other one sounds right. Don't worry about "mixed reviews". Remember that some people hate statistics and wouldn't dare write a positive review.

    Why are you in the for "Engineers & Scientists" class? Maybe you should change your registration.

    What level are you trying to learn? The second book does not appear to be an introductory course. There is some tedious consideration in an introductory course. This may be what you are seeing. There is some value in getting used to slogging through mounds of data.

    Just a few hints...
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    I'm doing a bachelor of mathematics at a university, this is our first course in statistics. I have no idea why we are using that book, but I know I am in the right class, haha. The last topics in our curriculum include:

    5.2 Discrete Uniform Distribution
    5.3 Binominal and Multinomial Distributions
    5.4 Hypergeometric Distribution
    5.5 Negative Binominal and Geometric Distributions
    5.6 Poisson Distribution and the Poisson Process

    6.2 Normal Distribution
    6.5 Normal Approximation to the Binominal
    6.6 Gamma and Exponential Distributions
    6.8 Chi-Squared Distribution

    8.4 Sampling Distributions
    8.5 Sampling Distribution of Means
    8.6 Sampling Distributions of S2
    8.7 t-Distribution
    8.8 F-Distribution

    And following that is alot of inferencial statics. Maybe that gave you a hint about the level of the course.
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    Looks like a basic introduction to me.

    I am pleased that your Math Degree requires Statistics. Not all of them do. Many years ago, mine didn't, but I took it anyway. It was a good choice.
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    Quote Originally Posted by gralla55 View Post
    I'm doing a bachelor of mathematics at a university, this is our first course in statistics. I have no idea why we are using that book, but I know I am in the right class, haha. The last topics in our curriculum include:

    5.2 Discrete Uniform Distribution
    5.3 Binominal and Multinomial Distributions
    5.4 Hypergeometric Distribution
    5.5 Negative Binominal and Geometric Distributions
    5.6 Poisson Distribution and the Poisson Process

    6.2 Normal Distribution
    6.5 Normal Approximation to the Binominal
    6.6 Gamma and Exponential Distributions
    6.8 Chi-Squared Distribution

    8.4 Sampling Distributions
    8.5 Sampling Distribution of Means
    8.6 Sampling Distributions of S2
    8.7 t-Distribution
    8.8 F-Distribution

    And following that is alot of inferencial statics. Maybe that gave you a hint about the level of the course.
    The book I used last year for my undergraduate Mathematical Statistics course was this:

    Probability and statistical inference - Google Books

    This is a graduate level textbook. I hated using it in the beginning, but later found this to book to be extremely helpful. The book does not give you answers to the exercises at the end of the chapter, but it has wonderfully written/explained examples and concepts.
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