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    Lightbulb electric field

    Find the electric field a distance  z above the center of a flat circular disk of radius  R , which carries a uniform surface charge  \sigma . What does your formula give in the limit  R \to \infty . Also check the case  z >> R .

    So  dq = \sigma da' . So I broke the surface up into circular rings (now we can consider line charges). Then  dq = \lambda dl' . So  \sigma \cdot 2 \pi r \cdot dr = \lambda \cdot 2 \pi r and  \lambda = \sigma dr . Could you also say that  \sigma \cdot \pi r^2 = \lambda \cdot 2 \pi r ?

    Then  E_{\text{ring}} = \frac{1}{4 \pi \epsilon_{0}} \frac{(\sigma dr) 2 \pi r z}{(r^{2}+z^{2})^{3/2}} and so  E_{\text{disk}} = \frac{1}{4 \pi \epsilon_{0}} 2 \pi \sigma z \int_{0}^{R} \frac{r}{(r^2+z^2)^{3/2}} \ dr .

    Is this correct?
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    Quote Originally Posted by heathrowjohnny View Post
    Find the electric field a distance  z above the center of a flat circular disk of radius  R , which carries a uniform surface charge  \sigma . What does your formula give in the limit  R \to \infty . Also check the case  z >> R .

    So  dq = \sigma da' . So I broke the surface up into circular rings (now we can consider line charges). Then  dq = \lambda dl' . So  \sigma \cdot 2 \pi r \cdot dr = \lambda \cdot 2 \pi r and  \lambda = \sigma dr . Could you also say that  \sigma \cdot \pi r^2 = \lambda \cdot 2 \pi r ?

    Then  E_{\text{ring}} = \frac{1}{4 \pi \epsilon_{0}} \frac{(\sigma dr) 2 \pi r z}{(r^{2}+z^{2})^{3/2}} and so  E_{\text{disk}} = \frac{1}{4 \pi \epsilon_{0}} 2 \pi \sigma z \int_{0}^{R} \frac{r}{(r^2+z^2)^{3/2}} \ dr .

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    Why not do it directly?

    I have a disk of radius R centered on the origin and lying in the xy plane. I have an observation point (0, 0, z) and a constant surface charge density \sigma. Thus
    \bold{E} = \int \frac{\bold{x}~dq}{4 \pi \epsilon _0x^3}
    where x is the displacement from the charge element to the observation point.

    Now,
    \sigma = \frac{Q}{A}

    Q = \sigma A \implies dq = \sigma ~dA

    Note that the electric field will be pointed in the z direction, so we may automatically integrate over that component and not worry about a radial component.

    The area element in the plane will be r~dr~d \theta, thus
    \bold{E} = \int_0^R \int_0^{2 pi} \frac{\sigma rz~d \theta ~dr}{4 \pi \epsilon _0 (r^2 + z^2)^{3/2}}~\bold{\hat{z}}

    \bold{E} = \frac{\sigma}{2 \epsilon _0} \cdot \frac{\sqrt{R^2 + z^2} - z}{\sqrt{R^2 + z^2}} ~\bold{\hat{z}}

    -Dan
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