# Thread: [SOLVED] order of elements in multiplicative group

1. ## [SOLVED] order of elements in multiplicative group

13) Find the order of each of the following elements in the multiplicative group of units U(sub)p.

a. [2] for p=13
b. [5] for p=13
c. [3] for p=17
d. [8] for p=17

If you can tell me what units mean, and how to solve at least one of the problems, I think I should be able to do the rest. At this point, I don't know where to begin.

Thanks!

2. Originally Posted by yvonnehr
13) Find the order of each of the following elements in the multiplicative group of units U(sub)p.

a. [2] for p=13
b. [5] for p=13
c. [3] for p=17
d. [8] for p=17

If you can tell me what units mean, and how to solve at least one of the problems, I think I should be able to do the rest. At this point, I don't know where to begin.

Thanks!
$\displaystyle \mathbb{U}_n = \{ [k] : 1 \le k < n \text{ and } (k,n) = 1 \}$

that is, the set of all equivalence classes in $\displaystyle \mathbb{Z}_n$, where the representatives are less than $\displaystyle n$ and relatively prime to $\displaystyle n$ (including 1)

example, $\displaystyle \mathbb{U}_{12} = \{ [1], [5], [7], [11] \}$

since 5,7, and 11 are the integers between 1 and 12 that are relatively prime to 12.

$\displaystyle \mathbb{U}_n$ is an Abelian group with respect to $\displaystyle \odot$ (you know what $\displaystyle \odot$ means, right?).

so what would $\displaystyle \mathbb{U}_p$ look like for some prime $\displaystyle p$?

can you find the order of the elements? do you remember how order is defined?

3. Originally Posted by Jhevon
$\displaystyle \mathbb{U}_n = \{ [k] : 1 \le k < n \text{ and } (k,n) = 1 \}$

that is, the set of all equivalence classes in $\displaystyle \mathbb{Z}_n$, where the representatives are less than $\displaystyle n$ and relatively prime to $\displaystyle n$ (including 1)

example, $\displaystyle \mathbb{U}_{12} = \{ [1], [5], [7], [11] \}$

since 5,7, and 11 are the integers between 1 and 12 that are relatively prime to 12.

$\displaystyle \mathbb{U}_n$ is an Abelian group with respect to $\displaystyle \odot$ (you know what $\displaystyle \odot$ means, right?).

so what would $\displaystyle \mathbb{U}_p$ look like for some prime $\displaystyle p$?

can you find the order of the elements? do you remember how order is defined?
$\displaystyle \mathbb{U}_p$ would equal $\displaystyle \mathbb{Z}_p$ since each element would be relatively prime to p. Right?

If I am not mistaken, the order of a group is the number of elements in the group. I don't know how to find the order of an element. And I don't know how being an Abelian group relates to finding the solution.

Thanks. Can someone please clarify? I really want to solve this homework problem.

4. Originally Posted by yvonnehr
$\displaystyle \mathbb{U}_p$ would equal $\displaystyle \mathbb{Z}_p$ since each element would be relatively prime to p. Right?
yes. well, not including [0]. you want $\displaystyle \mathbb{Z}_p^*$

If I am not mistaken, the order of a group is the number of elements in the group.
yes, for finite groups. but you want the order of the given element.

I don't know how to find the order of an element.
Let $\displaystyle (G,*)$ be a group and $\displaystyle a \in G$. The order of $\displaystyle a$, denoted $\displaystyle \circ (a)$, is defined as the smallest positive integer $\displaystyle n$ such that $\displaystyle a^n = e$ ($\displaystyle e$ is the identity element. $\displaystyle a^n = \underbrace {a*a* \cdots *a}_{\text{product of }n~a\text{'s}}$)

so going back to $\displaystyle \mathbb{U}_{12}$. Lets find the order of $\displaystyle [7]$. Since, as i said, the operation is $\displaystyle \odot$, lets do this operation with $\displaystyle [7]$ and itself until we get the identity (which is $\displaystyle [1]$).

$\displaystyle [7] \odot [7] = [7 \cdot 7] = [49] = [1]_{12}$.

thus, $\displaystyle [7]^2 = [1]$, and so $\displaystyle \circ ([7]) = 2$

what about $\displaystyle [5]$?

$\displaystyle [5] \odot [5] = [25] = [1]$, so again, $\displaystyle \circ ([5]) = 2$

now do your problems. the fact that you are working with $\displaystyle \mathbb{Z}_p^*$ helps

And I don't know how being an Abelian group relates to finding the solution.
you asked what "units" mean, so i gave you the definition. whether all parts of the definition come in handy in solving the problem is another story

Thanks. Can someone please clarify? I really want to solve this homework problem.
you should be able to get somewhere now

5. ## Thanks!

Thank you so much. After seeing your example, I realized that I was generating for an additive and not a multiplicative group. <:-)

Thank you so much!!!