# Thread: Ideals in a ring

1. ## Ideals in a ring

Let c be in a ring R and let I = {rc | r is in R}
Give an example to show that if R is not a commutative ring, then I need not be an ideal.

Can someone help me this?

2. Originally Posted by anlys
Let c be in a ring R and let I = {rc | r is in R}
Give an example to show that if R is not a commutative ring, then I need not be an ideal.
For any $k \in R$ and any $rc \in I$, $k(rc) \in I$.
But $(rc)k$ may not be in $R$.

3. Originally Posted by Byun
For any $k \in R$ and any $rc \in I$, $k(rc) \in I$.
But $(rc)k$ may not be in $R$.
Hello Byun,
Thanks for your input. Do you also have a particular example to show this?

4. Originally Posted by anlys
Let c be in a ring R and let I = {rc | r is in R}
Give an example to show that if R is not a commutative ring, then I need not be an ideal.

Can someone help me this?
$R=M_2(\mathbb{Z}), \ c=\begin{bmatrix}1 & 0 \\ 0 & 0 \end{bmatrix}.$ we have: $I=\{rc: \ r \in R \}=\left \{\begin{bmatrix}a & 0 \\ b & 0 \end{bmatrix}: \ a,b \in \mathbb{Z} \right \}.$ let $s=\begin{bmatrix}0 & 1 \\ 0 & 0 \end{bmatrix}.$ then $cs=s \notin I. \ \Box$