Algebraic structures - help with prove or disprove question

Hi.

I need to prove or disprove the following:

1. Let and . A is a Group.

2. Let and . A is a Group.

both with the operation:

My intuition says 1 is true and 2 is false (the unit element in 1 is , and with simple algebra I can find the inverse element for a given element ), but I'm not sure about 2.

Can someone please give me some help with it?

Thanks in advanced!

Re: Algebraic structures - help with prove or disprove question

Hi Stormey,

Do you know about field extensions? Your question is merely a disguised form of the following:

Let F be a field and irreducible over F ( ). Then there is a field F' containing F and an element x in F' such that x^{2} = 2 and every element of F' is uniquely expressible as s + tx for some s and t in F. Of course the non-zero elements of F' form a group under multiplication. This is precisely your group in either 1 or 2.

I really wouldn't want to prove the group axioms from scratch -- associativity would be a mess just from the definition of *. You said you could find the inverse of any element in case F = Q, but you didn't say what it is. Except for notation, this will also be the inverse when F is GF(5). For either case,

For a and b not both 0, since x^2-2 has no solution in F.

Re: Algebraic structures - help with prove or disprove question

Hi johng. thanks for your help.

Eventually, this is (more or less) what I wrote... (this exercise was due to yesterday).

I remembered something about B looks very much like the field , but I couldn't put my finger on why it is relevant.

Hope to get some points for this question...