# Finding eigenvalues of a 3x3 matrix

• Feb 9th 2013, 01:27 AM
marky82
Finding eigenvalues of a 3x3 matrix
I am having problems trying to orthogonally diagonalise the below matrix. I am stuck at the stage where you find the eigenvalues.

The matrix is

5 -4 0
-4 3 -4 = 0
0 -4 1

This is what I get, but I cannot solve it so I think I have done something wrong.

5-λ -4 0
-4 3-
λ -4 = 0
0 -4 1-
λ

(5-
λ)*|(3-λ)(1-λ) - (-4)(-4)| + 4*|(-4)(1-λ)| = 0

this works down to

(5-
λ)(λ^2 +12λ - 29)

when typing this I have just realised that I just need to use the quadratic equation to solve
(λ^2 +12λ - 29) and (5 - λ) is just λ = 5.

So if someone could just confirm if I'm heading towards the right direction or not, then that would be great
(Happy)

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• Feb 9th 2013, 03:13 AM
ILikeSerena
Re: Finding eigenvalues of a 3x3 matrix
Hi marky82! :)

I think you made a calculation error.

In (5-λ)*|(3-λ)(1-λ) - (-4)(-4)| + 4*|(-4)(1-λ)| = 0, you dropped a factor (5-λ) in the 2nd term.

Furthermore (5-λ) is not a factor of the entire expression.

You are heading in the right direction though.
• Feb 9th 2013, 03:22 AM
marky82
Re: Finding eigenvalues of a 3x3 matrix
thanks for replying. I am not sure what you mean. Could you show me how you worked out the eigenvalues so I can compare it with mine please?
• Feb 9th 2013, 03:34 AM
ILikeSerena
Re: Finding eigenvalues of a 3x3 matrix
Well, you can see the eigenvalues for instance here.
As you can see 5 is not one of them.
• Feb 9th 2013, 03:47 AM
marky82
Re: Finding eigenvalues of a 3x3 matrix
Quote:

Originally Posted by ILikeSerena
Hi marky82! :)

I think you made a calculation error.

In (5-λ)*|(3-λ)(1-λ) - (-4)(-4)| + 4*|(-4)(1-λ)| = 0, you dropped a factor (5-λ) in the 2nd term.

Furthermore (5-λ) is not a factor of the entire expression.

You are heading in the right direction though.

Thanks, for the link, it helps when I have answer to work towards. My maths terminology isn't the greatest so I don't really understand the above quote. I don't get what it means to have dropped a factor (5 - λ) in the 2nd term. It's probably so simple but my brain doesn't get what you mean :(
• Feb 9th 2013, 03:52 AM
marky82
Re: Finding eigenvalues of a 3x3 matrix
Apologies, It has just clicked. Thanks so much for your help :)
• Feb 9th 2013, 04:11 AM
ILikeSerena
Re: Finding eigenvalues of a 3x3 matrix
Aaah! You mean the meaning of the words I've used!?
Are you referring to term and factor?
Or something else?
I'd like to know for future reference.
• Feb 9th 2013, 04:58 AM
marky82
Re: Finding eigenvalues of a 3x3 matrix
Quote:

Originally Posted by ILikeSerena
Aaah! You mean the meaning of the words I've used!?
Are you referring to term and factor?
Or something else?
I'd like to know for future reference.

yeah, term and factor. I normally find I can do most maths processes but the terminology is what I have to spend most time on getting to grips with.
• Feb 9th 2013, 05:06 AM
ILikeSerena
Re: Finding eigenvalues of a 3x3 matrix
Quote:

Originally Posted by marky82
yeah, term and factor. I normally find I can do most maths processes but the terminology is what I have to spend most time on getting to grips with.

Yeah, I know what you mean.
Whenever I learn something new, the first challenge is always to come to grips with the new words that are being used, or otherwise with the words that I simply did not know (well enough) yet.
• Feb 9th 2013, 06:05 AM
marky82
Re: Finding eigenvalues of a 3x3 matrix
Yeah its like its starting to sound like another language when I speak it out loud.