# when a subgroup is in the center of other subgroup

• Dec 14th 2011, 07:03 AM
Amer
when a subgroup is in the center of other subgroup
The question is
Let G be a group, $N \lhd G$ such that $$G:N$ = r$
let $H \lhd G$ with finite order show that
if
$H \cap N = e$ then $nh = hn \;\; \forall \; h\in H \; , n\in N$
• Dec 14th 2011, 07:39 AM
Deveno
Re: when a subgroup is in the center of other subgroup
i am a little unsure as to how [G:N] = r is relevant to your question, other than saying N is of finite index. i also don't know what you mean by "one subgroup is in the center of the other" in terms of your subsequent question.

if H is in Z(N), of course nh = hn, but then it cannot be the case that H∩N = {e}, unless Z(N) is likewise trivial.

but if H,N are both normal in G, with H∩N = {e}, then for any h in H, and n in N, we have:

$hnh^{-1}n^{-1} \in N$ since $hnh^{-1}, n^{-1} \in N$, because N is normal, while

$hnh^{-1}n^{-1} \in H$, since $h, nh^{-1}n^{-1} \in H$ because H is normal.

since H∩N = {e}, we see that h and n commute.
• Dec 14th 2011, 07:52 AM
Amer
Re: when a subgroup is in the center of other subgroup
thanks
the problem in Abstract algebra when you see the answer you say oooh it is easy how i did not figure that
the hardness is the idea of the solution
I think if I had thought in it in reverse nh = hn and see what will happen
anyway thanks very much