How can I show that the number of even permutations is equal to the number of odd permutations?

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- September 27th 2011, 09:32 PMjzelltPermutations
How can I show that the number of even permutations is equal to the number of odd permutations?

- September 27th 2011, 09:39 PMDrexel28Re: Permutations
- September 27th 2011, 09:46 PMjzelltRe: Permutations
Thanks. Is it true an odd permutation can be expressed as an even permutation and visa versa? Can you give an example of this?

- September 27th 2011, 09:47 PMDrexel28Re: Permutations
- September 27th 2011, 09:55 PMjzelltRe: Permutations
I thought if you have a product of even transpositions, it can be "messed" with and be expressed as a product of odd transpostions... Maybe I'm way off here though...

- September 27th 2011, 10:02 PMDrexel28Re: Permutations
Yeah, that's precisely what CAN'T happen, it is actually phrased the exact way you did, with the appropriate negation insereted, in most textbooks. A different way of looking at this is that there is a natural action of on the set where and the action is . We can then think of the set of even actions as the stabilizer of from where everything I've told you follows.

If you haven't done group actions yet, just ignore that. - September 27th 2011, 10:14 PMjzelltRe: Permutations
A finite set with two or more elements has equal numbers of even and odd permutations.

Proof. For each even permutation, we can obtain a unique odd permutation by transposing the first two elements. This defines a one-to-one correspondence between even and odd permutations, hence there are equal numbers of each.

I found this proof somewhere. Can you explain with an example what they mean by transposing the first two elements. This is what I was meaning... - September 27th 2011, 10:24 PMDevenoRe: Permutations
the key fact here is that if a permutation can be expressed as a product of an odd (resp. even) number of transpositions, it can ONLY be expressed as a product of an odd (resp.even) number of transpositions.

this is a deep fact, and one which is often used to PROVE that [Sn:An] = 2. this is equivalent to proving the "signum" (or sign) function sgn:Sn-->{-1,1} is well-defined, after which it is easy to show that |An| = |Sn|/2, and that An is normal. one way of proving this is to invoke the Vandermonde polynomial:

and let a permutation σ in Sn act on p by taking:

odd permutations take p-->-p, while even permutations take p-->p.

my point is: all the difficulty is buried in ensuring that "even permutation" and "odd permutation" are well-defined terms, that we cannot have a permutation that is both. until this is done, An is not a well-defined set.

if we call our initial (even) permutation σ, and our second permutation τ, then this means:

τ(1) = σ(2)

τ(2) = σ(1)

τ(k) = σ(k), k = 3,4,...,n

this is equivalent to writing: τ = (σ(1) σ(2))σ.

note that τ has one more transpostion in its product than σ does.